Tobin chats with Nick Wheeler of the All American Rejects (AAR) . Nick talks about the band's beginnings, its success, and frustrations. He talks about growth and looking at things differently than he did when he was in his 20s compared to 40s. We also talk about how everything SEEMS different but is the same in the music industry, sure now we have TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter but you still have to grind to get yourself out there so people see your content.
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