In this conversation, Pastor Joel Wayne from Chapel Pointe, shares insights about his journey in West Michigan, the dynamics of community, and the importance of worship. He emphasizes the need for a vertical focus in worship, the distinction between the upstream and downstream gospel, and how living a life of worship extends beyond church services. Pastor Joel encourages listeners to recognize their need for a savior and to prioritize their relationship with God over familial ties.
The lyrics are from Abide by Aaron Williams.

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