In this episode, I sit down with Richard Hoyle — a former British Army officer whose path has taken him from military command to global enterprise sales, and then into the deeper territory of psychological insight and reflective practice. Over the years he’s woven together influences from Jungian psychology, Buddhist thought, and decades of lived leadership.What we explore is how leadership changes as you do. Early on it’s about task, and discipline. With time, it shifts toward trust, presence, and a clearer sense of purpose. Richard shares stories from Army mess rooms and executive boardrooms, looking at how people actually grow, what makes teams work, and how culture is shaped in those everyday, very human moments that don’t show up on a plan.We get into how different personalities handle stress, how ego can pull a leader off-course, and why creativity often starts in the stillness — the moment when you’re just staring out of the window and letting the mind settle.It’s a conversation about learning, listening, and leading with real attention — both the practical side and the personal side of the work.

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