Our guests this month are Alice Maynard and Richard Hawkes, formerly of Scope, a leading disability charity in the UK. In 2010, Alice became Chair, and shortly after, Richard joined as Chief Executive Officer. During their time leading Scope, it went through a significant transformation and a turbulent time. Significant changes included closing services used by disabled people, which attracted praise and condemnation. Getting the organisation on a stronger footing by restoring its reserves and the modernisation of processes and policies were significant but less visible. We talk to Alice and Richard about how they formed a formidable and effective partnership to achieve their aims whilst facing many challengers.  We ask them both about how (and why) they joined Scope and what they achieved and are proud of. We explore being strategic and bold and going against those who love you. There are some revealing tales of their time working together.  We also explore today’s challenges, what can organisations do better and what their leadership philosophies are.   Links Alice Maynard LinkedIn Future Inclusion Richard Hawkes LinkedIn British Asian Trust  Richard on X Scope Scope History Civil Society Media on the closures 2015 

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