"enjoy the problem.""let yourself be seen."-kati hoyjoin amy & caleb as they talk with one of their dear friends, kati hoy around an actual campfire in joshua tree national park. as you listen to the calming crackles & pops of the fire, you will hear them discuss kati's transition from living in a van full time to deciding to move into an apartment, vulnerability, & the practice of letting yourself be seen. they also decide to cheers like a zillion times, so grab a beverage of choice & enjoy!to follow along with kati's journey, follow her on instagram @katihoy

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