In our 60th episode we're talking to pilot Ellie Carter, initially famous for breaking into the scene schooling some U-2 pilots on their aeroplane at age 9, who has gone on through an early whirlwind aviation career to now fly Piper L4H Cub 480015 (G-AKIB). We chat about how she got that remarkable experience, what it took to get into aviation so young and how she has found being a woman and young person in that world.

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