In this episode of Tea Leaves, Kelly Magsamen, Senior Advisor at The Asia Group, sits down with Abe Denmark, TAG Partner and former Senior AUKUS Advisor to the Secretary of Defense, to unpack the strategic significance of AUKUS Pillar II. They explore how the U.S., U.K., and Australia can fast-track defense innovation across autonomy, long-range strike, and integrated air defense. The conversation highlights opportunities for industrial collaboration, bold new trilateral initiatives, and the critical role of speed in delivering next-generation capabilities. Tune in for insights on how governments and industry can work together to shape the future of Indo-Pacific security through next-generation deterrence.

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