In episode 147 of the Talk4 Podcast, Louis Skupien sits down with Brig. Gen. Douglas “Beaker” Wickert, Commander of the 412th Test Wing at Edwards Air Force Base—the beating heart of U.S. aerospace innovation.With over 10,000 personnel and billions in assets under his command, Wickert leads the testing and development of America’s next-gen airpower, including the B-21 Raider, autonomous aircraft, and the brand new F-47 fighter jet. In this episode, he reflects on a storied career as a test pilot, engineer, and leader, sharing leadership lessons, the evolution of air dominance, and what the future holds for combat aviation.We cover:The legacy of Edwards AFB and its unmatched role in aerospace testingThe upcoming F-47 fighter and next-gen warfareFlying the F-16, F-22, F-35, B-21 and testing AI pilotsLeadership in high-risk environmentsWhat makes a great leader—and how to inspire the next generation🎧 Listen now for insights that will blow your mind, whether you’re a future pilot, military buff, or aerospace fan.

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