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Episode Synopsis
Welcome to The Sleep Edit, the podcast that helps tired kids and parents sleep better. Each week, Dr. Craig Canapari and sleep consultant Arielle Greenleaf break down evidence-based strategies you can actually use.
Why are nap transitions so confusing—and why do they so often derail nights? In Part 2 of our napping series, Craig and Arielle dig into the real-world challenges families face when moving from 3→2 naps, 2→1 nap, and eventually dropping naps entirely. Using concrete examples, sleep-need math, and practical troubleshooting, this episode explains exactly what to look for and how to navigate every transition with less stress.
You’ll learn
• How to know when it’s time to drop a nap
• The signs of a nap transition vs. a temporary “nap strike”
• Why total 24-hour sleep matters more than wake-window charts
• What typical daytime sleep looks like for infants and toddlers
• The sleep math behind transitions (high vs. low sleep-need kids)
• How daycare schedules can derail naps—and what parents can control
• Strategies for capping naps, shifting schedules, and preventing bedtime battles
• When early morning awakenings actually signal too much daytime sleep
Chapters
00:00:01 — Welcome & Episode Setup
00:01:07 — The 3→2 Nap Transition: When It Starts
00:02:48 — Biology of Sleep Drive & Late Naps
00:03:43 — Why Late Bedtimes Are So Common Now
00:04:59 — How Total Sleep Needs Shape Nap Schedules
00:06:32 — Wake Windows vs. Real Sleep Need
00:07:52 — Consolidated Naps & Nap Length Targets
00:09:41 — How to Use the Third Nap as a Bridge
00:11:06 — Example: Designing a 13.5-hour Sleep Day
00:12:59 — Signs It’s Time to Drop From 3→2 Naps
00:14:45 — Why Transitions Are Messy (and Normal)
00:15:56 — The 2→1 Nap Transition: Age & Signs
00:17:46 — Developmental Milestones That Disrupt Naps
00:19:06 — Case Example: Drew (13 Months)
00:20:57 — How to Start the 2→1 Transition Step-by-Step
00:22:54 — Shifting Nap Timing & Early Bedtime Strategy
00:23:56 — Tracking Sleep: Apps vs. Diaries
00:24:53 — Why Smart Monitors Often Mislead Parents
00:26:50 — When Nights Get Worse Because of Nap Issues
00:27:59 — The 1→0 Transition: What Truly Signals Readiness
00:29:18 — Daycare Nap Challenges & Parent Options
00:31:56 — Capping Naps to Protect Nighttime Sleep
00:33:30 — Nap Strikes vs. True Transitions
00:36:06 — Early Morning Awakenings & Too Much Day Sleep
00:38:30 — Final Thoughts & The Greenleaf Windows
Links
Napping spectacular episode 1
CIO episode of the Sleep Edit
Dr. Canapari’s article on Le Pause Sleep training
Period of purple crying
Dr. Canapari's article on napping
Dr. Canapari's article on sleep needs in children
Dr. Canapari articles on the science of why children stop napping
Arielle's website
References
Paruthi, S., Brooks, L. J., D’Ambrosio, C., Hall, W. A., Kotagal, S., Lloyd, R. M., Malow, B. A., Maski, K., Nichols, C., Quan, S. F., Rosen, C. L., Troester, M. M., & Wise, M. S. (2016). Consensus statement of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine on the recommended amount of sleep for healthy children: methodology and discussion. Journal of Clinical Sleep Medicine, 12(11), 1549–1561. https://doi.org/10.5664/jcsm.6288
Spencer, R. M. C., & Riggins, T. (2022). Contributions of memory and brain development to the bioregulation of naps and nap transitions in early childhood. PNAS, 119(11), e2114326119. https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2114326119
Staton, S., et al. (2020). Many naps, one nap, none: A systematic review and meta-analysis of napping patterns in children 0–12 years. Sleep Medicine Reviews, 50, 101247. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.smrv.2019.101247
Galland, B. C., Taylor, B. J., Elder, D. E., & Herbison, P. (2012). Normal sleep patterns in infants and children: A systematic review of observational studies. Sleep Medicine Reviews, 16(3), 213–222. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.smrv.2011.06.001
Horváth, K. (2018). Spotlight on daytime napping during early childhood. Frontiers in Psychology, 9, 1238. https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.01238
Wolke, D., Bilgin, A., & Samara, M. (2017). Systematic review and meta-analysis: Fussing and crying durations and prevalence of colic in infants. The Journal of Pediatrics, 185, 55–61.e4. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jpeds.2017.02.020
Lavner, J. A., et al. (2023). Sleep SAAF randomized clinical trial. JAMA Network Open, 6(3), e236276. https://doi.org/10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2023.6276
Paul, I. M., et al. (2016). INSIGHT Responsive Parenting Intervention and Infant Sleep. Pediatrics, 138(1), e20160762. https://doi.org/10.1542/peds.2016-0762
Why are nap transitions so confusing—and why do they so often derail nights? In Part 2 of our napping series, Craig and Arielle dig into the real-world challenges families face when moving from 3→2 naps, 2→1 nap, and eventually dropping naps entirely. Using concrete examples, sleep-need math, and practical troubleshooting, this episode explains exactly what to look for and how to navigate every transition with less stress.
You’ll learn
• How to know when it’s time to drop a nap
• The signs of a nap transition vs. a temporary “nap strike”
• Why total 24-hour sleep matters more than wake-window charts
• What typical daytime sleep looks like for infants and toddlers
• The sleep math behind transitions (high vs. low sleep-need kids)
• How daycare schedules can derail naps—and what parents can control
• Strategies for capping naps, shifting schedules, and preventing bedtime battles
• When early morning awakenings actually signal too much daytime sleep
Chapters
00:00:01 — Welcome & Episode Setup
00:01:07 — The 3→2 Nap Transition: When It Starts
00:02:48 — Biology of Sleep Drive & Late Naps
00:03:43 — Why Late Bedtimes Are So Common Now
00:04:59 — How Total Sleep Needs Shape Nap Schedules
00:06:32 — Wake Windows vs. Real Sleep Need
00:07:52 — Consolidated Naps & Nap Length Targets
00:09:41 — How to Use the Third Nap as a Bridge
00:11:06 — Example: Designing a 13.5-hour Sleep Day
00:12:59 — Signs It’s Time to Drop From 3→2 Naps
00:14:45 — Why Transitions Are Messy (and Normal)
00:15:56 — The 2→1 Nap Transition: Age & Signs
00:17:46 — Developmental Milestones That Disrupt Naps
00:19:06 — Case Example: Drew (13 Months)
00:20:57 — How to Start the 2→1 Transition Step-by-Step
00:22:54 — Shifting Nap Timing & Early Bedtime Strategy
00:23:56 — Tracking Sleep: Apps vs. Diaries
00:24:53 — Why Smart Monitors Often Mislead Parents
00:26:50 — When Nights Get Worse Because of Nap Issues
00:27:59 — The 1→0 Transition: What Truly Signals Readiness
00:29:18 — Daycare Nap Challenges & Parent Options
00:31:56 — Capping Naps to Protect Nighttime Sleep
00:33:30 — Nap Strikes vs. True Transitions
00:36:06 — Early Morning Awakenings & Too Much Day Sleep
00:38:30 — Final Thoughts & The Greenleaf Windows
Links
Napping spectacular episode 1
CIO episode of the Sleep Edit
Dr. Canapari’s article on Le Pause Sleep training
Period of purple crying
Dr. Canapari's article on napping
Dr. Canapari's article on sleep needs in children
Dr. Canapari articles on the science of why children stop napping
Arielle's website
References
Paruthi, S., Brooks, L. J., D’Ambrosio, C., Hall, W. A., Kotagal, S., Lloyd, R. M., Malow, B. A., Maski, K., Nichols, C., Quan, S. F., Rosen, C. L., Troester, M. M., & Wise, M. S. (2016). Consensus statement of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine on the recommended amount of sleep for healthy children: methodology and discussion. Journal of Clinical Sleep Medicine, 12(11), 1549–1561. https://doi.org/10.5664/jcsm.6288
Spencer, R. M. C., & Riggins, T. (2022). Contributions of memory and brain development to the bioregulation of naps and nap transitions in early childhood. PNAS, 119(11), e2114326119. https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2114326119
Staton, S., et al. (2020). Many naps, one nap, none: A systematic review and meta-analysis of napping patterns in children 0–12 years. Sleep Medicine Reviews, 50, 101247. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.smrv.2019.101247
Galland, B. C., Taylor, B. J., Elder, D. E., & Herbison, P. (2012). Normal sleep patterns in infants and children: A systematic review of observational studies. Sleep Medicine Reviews, 16(3), 213–222. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.smrv.2011.06.001
Horváth, K. (2018). Spotlight on daytime napping during early childhood. Frontiers in Psychology, 9, 1238. https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.01238
Wolke, D., Bilgin, A., & Samara, M. (2017). Systematic review and meta-analysis: Fussing and crying durations and prevalence of colic in infants. The Journal of Pediatrics, 185, 55–61.e4. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jpeds.2017.02.020
Lavner, J. A., et al. (2023). Sleep SAAF randomized clinical trial. JAMA Network Open, 6(3), e236276. https://doi.org/10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2023.6276
Paul, I. M., et al. (2016). INSIGHT Responsive Parenting Intervention and Infant Sleep. Pediatrics, 138(1), e20160762. https://doi.org/10.1542/peds.2016-0762
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