Episode 40 marks a big moment for the show: Ollie and Tom have officially turned their double-act into a threesome. Dexter Galvin joins as a host, fresh from CDP and now juggling advisory roles at EcoVadis, CO2 AI and more. He’s no stranger to the show (or to firing off LinkedIn posts that get far more engagement than Ollie will ever forgive him for), and now he joins the show to share his genuine wisdom and musings.This week, the boys catch up on:Why companies are freaking out about re-baselining their targets – and why Dexter insists it's a sign of progress, not backsliding.COP30 in Brazil, including the big deal behind the GHG Protocol x ISO alignment announcement, and what it means for reporting, suppliers, and everyone who doesn’t have time to untangle five different standards.What actually happened at the Tools Clinic, where Ollie herded 200 sustainability professionals through nine 10-minute tool demos, all without Zoom exploding.The launch of this year’s Scope 3 Peer Group Tools Review (link in show notes — yes, you should fill it in).Then we dive into two brilliant conversations:Katja Hantel, VP of ESG at Smith+Nephew tells the story that blew the roof off Ollie’s Scope 3 Peer Group Chicago meeting: how she reframed sustainability inside a med-tech company under real financial pressure. She explains why talking about efficiency, cost and resilience works better than leading with ‘green’ – and how this approach delivered a 60% Scope 3 reduction since 2021. Smith+Nephew also comes with hip implants, tendon repair tech, wound care – and now, a pretty compelling playbook for getting sustainability taken seriously in tough times.Then, we hear from George Sandilands who leads Sage Earth. George shares how a chaotic brand-activation project (involving a pile of giant gift boxes and a perfume company changing its mind) accidentally pushed him into climate action. He unpacks how Sage Earth is now helping half a million SMEs measure carbon through their accounting data – automatically – and why SMEs hold the keys to unlocking meaningful supply-chain action.He also talks honestly about life after acquisition (“from speedboat to cruise ship”) and the industry’s biggest blocker: lack of standardised data.Stuff mentioned this time:Tools Review – https://sustainabilitytoolfinder.com/tools-reviewDexter’s LinkedIn post on re-baselining – https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7399374243290828802/The GHG Protocol + ISO announcement  – https://ghgprotocol.org/blog/release-iso-and-ghg-protocol-announce-strategic-partnership-deliver-unified-global-standardsSage Earth – https://sage.comSmith+Nephew – https://www.smith-nephew.comIt’s a packed episode, with a new host, two killer interviews, some healthy moaning, one ball-pit-based birthday party, and a reminder that yes, Ollie really does talk about Liverpool every episode (he’s a bit obsessed).🎧 Enjoy. And remember: all of our previous episodes are available online at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast.

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