In this episode of the Ruby AI Podcast, hosts Valentino Stoll and Joe Leo are joined by Avi Flombaum, the founder of Flatiron School. Avi talks about the origins of Flatiron, the success it achieved, and the educational methods used to teach programming, emphasizing on the importance of understanding code deeply and leveraging AI efficiently. He discusses the challenges and changes in the industry, particularly with the rise of AI, and provides insight into modern workflows and product development. The conversation also touches on the necessity of integrating product thinking into engineering and how automated workflows can improve consistency and efficiency in software creation.00:00 Introduction and Welcoming Avi Flombaum00:55 Avi's Journey to Founding Flatiron School02:22 The Impact and Growth of Flatiron School04:40 Challenges and Evolution in the Bootcamp Industry05:39 Transitioning from Education to AI06:39 The Role of AI in Modern Development08:14 Effective AI Workflows for Developers16:08 Teaching and Learning with AI20:47 Product Management and Engineering Collaboration27:31 Leveraging AI in Product Development28:35 Exploring AI-Driven Product Development29:42 Teaching Product Management Skills30:49 Innovative Solutions in Product Design32:25 Understanding User Needs and Problem Solving35:33 Learning Through Code and AI Tools42:38 The Future of Software Engineering

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