Hosts Brian Phillips and Derek Cohen dive into the critical issue of indoctrination in K-12 education with special guest Ken Pope, CEO of the Coalition for Empowered Education and Senior Fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation. They discuss how Colleges of Education are shaping teachers with ideological agendas, the impact on classrooms, and solutions to restore critical thinking and balanced education. From Marxist influences to grassroots efforts, this conversation uncovers the challenges parents face and how to combat politicized curricula.00:30 - Brian and Derek catch up: New baby and festival banter01:27 - Hot Take: Craziest band names at ACL 2025 (Wet Leg, Spacey Jane, Panda Bear, Dr. Dog)04:00 - Introducing Ken Pope: CEO of Coalition for Empowered Education06:47 - How Colleges of Education have shifted to ideological indoctrination08:52 - The long march of critical theory in academia12:03 - Exposure vs. Indoctrination: What’s the difference?14:57 - From Marxism to modern victimology: Evolution of classroom ideologies17:16 - Are teachers trained to be activists?19:43 - The disconnect between parents and teachers’ goals21:20 - Indoctrination in rural and urban schools alike23:35 - What are education students actually learning?24:27 - Shocking examples from social studies conferences29:51 - Coalition for Empowered Education’s mission to retrain teachers33:56 - Legislative and grassroots solutions to reform teacher training37:46 - Universities doing it right: Hillsdale, UATX, and others40:56 - Why mandate Colleges of Education? Alternative teacher certification44:39 - Red flags for parents: How to spot indoctrination in classrooms49:56 - How to connect with the Coalition for Empowered Education50:28 - Closing thoughts and Sam Houston’s wisdom Coalition for Empowered Education: https://cee.orgVictims of Communism Memorial Foundation: https://victimsofcommunism.org

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