The BanterThe Guys talk about the joys and heartbreak of urban and suburban gardening. The ConversationThe Restaurant Guys get expert advice about the goings on in the world of caviar from Deborah Keane. She is a pioneer in sustainable caviar farming and is changing the game again with her no-kill caviar. Hear how tradition, politics and technology have all played a role in the caviar we have today and the extracted version we can have very soon.The Inside TrackThe Guys get to ask Deborah about an age old tradition of keeping metal away from caviar.Francis: There's an old kitchen rule that you never touch caviar with a metal utensil. So we have these mother-of-pearl spoons with which we serve caviar. Is that true? And if it's true, why?Deborah:  So I will start with the king of the culinary world, Jacques Pépin. He says to me, “Deborah, the caviar is never long enough on the spoon to make it make a difference.”  And he's right! So use whatever you want. -Deborah Keane on The Restaurant Guys Podcast 2025BioDeborah Keane, dubbed the “Caviar Queen”,  built a complete, vertically integrated spawning-to-serving enterprise and is a leading pioneer in sustainable fish farming. She is the first female-owned and operated caviar company in the world and the first female fish farm owner in the state of California, California Caviar Company. She is on the cutting edge again harvesting caviar using a no-kill method.InfoCalifornia Caviar https://californiacaviar.com/Become a Restaurant Guys' Regular!https://www.buzzsprout.com/2401692/subscribeMagyar Bankhttps://www.magbank.com/Withum Accounting https://www.withum.com/restaurantOur Places Stage Left Steakhttps://www.stageleft.com/ Catherine Lombardi Restauranthttps://www.catherinelombardi.com/ Stage Left Wineshophttps://www.stageleftwineshop.com/ To hear more about food, wine and the finer things in life:https://www.instagram.com/restaurantguyspodcast/https://www.facebook.com/restaurantguysReach Out to The [email protected]**Become a Restaurant Guys Regular and get two bonus episodes per month, bonus content and Regulars Only events.**Click Below!https://www.buzzsprout.com/2401692/subscribe

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