In this episode, Sara Jolena Wolcott and Lisa Colón DeLay have an engaging discussion about the inner landscape, drawing on wisdom from the Desert Fathers and Mothers of early Christianity. They explore how our internal worlds are deeply shaped by cultural influences, trauma, and the dynamics of community. Lisa shares insights from her book "The Wild Land Within," describing the "eight afflicting thoughts" identified by the Desert Father Evagrius as common challenges on the spiritual journey. The conversation also delves into the rich but often overlooked Coptic Orthodox Christian tradition and the importance of developing personal "rules of life" with spiritual practices.Throughout, Sara and Lisa emphasize the need to balance an awareness of our wounds and struggles with a remembrance of the blessings, beauty, and sources of safety within our inner landscapes. Their dialogue offers listeners a thoughtful, holistic perspective on navigating the complexities of the soul.Download the mapGet a copy of her book The Wild Land Within: Cultivating Wholeness through Spiritual Practice Send us a messageSupport the showLearn more about Sara Jolena Wolcott and Sequoia SamanvayaMusic Title: Both of Us Music by: madiRFAN Don't forget to "like" and share this episode!

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