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Listen "#170 Apprenticeships, Sabbaticals & "Good Work" — Steve Schlafman & Matt Yao on slowing down, deprogramming, unlearning, learning from others, deciding to quit, going on a sabbatical, not being jealous anymore, competitiveness and enoughness, finding good work, ambition, the apprenticeship, Downshift, decelerator, marriage, family and reframing money "
Episode Synopsis
Steve is a professional coach and the founder of Downshift — the world's first decelerator. He has left a career in venture, but he remains ambitious, it's just that his ambition is now to have a good, multidimentional life, where he can be a good dad for his kids.Matt has left a traditional path early on to write, travel and discover his own path. When he met Steve, he offered him to become his apprentice and joined Downshift.🎥🍿 YOUTUBE: WATCH HERELinks:DownshiftSteve's websiteSteve's TwitterMatt's TwitterMatt's blog — Game of OneMatt's blog — Build in ClimateDownshift on Twitter⌛TIMESTAMPS(00:00) - Intro
(03:12) - The scripts that Steve & Matt grew up with
(05:58) - Slowing down, deprogramming and unlearning
(12:50) - The cocoon stage
(15:03) - Deciding to quit
(19:23) - Learning from others on the path and having children
(26:16) - Trust
(29:27) - Matt's sabbatical, finding good work
(35:24) - No jealousy, competitiveness vs enoughness
(39:34) - Matt's apprenticeship with Steve
(48:43) - Putting yourself in a place where it's easy to help you
(52:41) - Downshift & Ambition
(01:03:12) - Marriage & Family
(01:11:00) - Reframing money, skiing and oatmeal
(01:17:21) - Launching decelerator
(01:21:32) - Closing remarks
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