Ministry can be both deeply rewarding and painfully exhausting. In this conversation, Tara Beth Leach and Mark Quanstrom open up about what keeps them in pastoral ministry after decades of challenges, transitions, and spiritual fatigue. From the support of their spouses to the importance of theological education, they reflect honestly on what sustains them when things get hard.Learn more about The DMin in Pastoral Theology & Practice at Northern Seminary: https://www.seminary.edu/programs/doctor-of-ministry-in-pastoral-theology-practice/ 🎙️ In This Episode:Why presence (not performance) is key to longevity in ministryHow spouses and friendships help pastors endure stormsThe spiritual and vocational value of ongoing theological educationAn exciting announcement about the launch of a new Doctor of Ministry program⏱️ Timestamps:00:30 – Catching up and Mark’s decision to stay another 4 years03:00 – Tara Beth shares about a recent painful leadership season07:00 – The role of their spouses in surviving ministry10:00 – Why community and presence matter more than performance13:00 – Reflections from a missionary couple on staying faithful16:00 – Theological convictions that ground pastoral work18:00 – How ongoing learning has sustained Mark’s ministry25:00 – Why churches should support their pastors’ education27:00 – Tara Beth announces her return to school28:00 – Introducing the new DMin in Theology & Practice of Pastoral Ministry32:00 – How to apply and what’s coming next

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