Rob Coyle sits down with David Hirst, CEO of Macquarie Data Centres, for a deep look at the rapid changes shaping data centers in the age of AI. David shares why Australia’s sovereign approach matters, how AI workloads are shifting design from “real estate” to “chip-out thinking,” and why early collaboration across hyperscalers, government, and the supply chain is becoming essential.They explore the unique nature of the Australian market, the rise of liquid cooling and megawatt-per-rack designs, what it takes to build IC3 Super West, and how culture, regulation, and geopolitics all influence where and how AI infrastructure gets built.A thoughtful conversation for anyone working in AI infrastructure, colocation, hyperscale strategy, or global data centre planning.Chapters00:00 – Introduction00:27 – Why Australia Is a Prime Data Centre Hub01:52 – How AI Changed Everything03:23 – Planning for Bursty, Unpredictable AI Workloads04:28 – Liquid Cooling and Blurred Boundaries06:17 – What Makes the Australian Market Different08:35 – Building in Dense Cities and Working With Communities10:12 – AI, Culture, and Data Sovereignty11:22 – Local Requirements and Power Challenges12:57 – Long-Term Operators vs Short-Term Developers16:20 – Compliance as a Market Advantage18:45 – The Critical Role of Data Centres in Modern Life20:22 – Inside IC3 Super West21:56 – Designing for a Fast-Changing Future23:51 – Why AI Behaves Differently Than Cloud26:43 – The Rise of CDU Innovation28:09 – Building for 2030 and Beyond33:27 – What Keeps David Optimistic

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