In this episode of The Next Interview, John Boggs, CEO of the Brave Thinking Institute, joins Doland White to explore the energetic foundation of leadership and the hidden laws that shape how we think, lead, and inspire.

John shares how The Seven Hidden Laws of Leadership—co-created with Blaine Bartlett—help leaders move beyond tactical management to visionary empowerment. You’ll discover why great leadership isn’t just about strategy or KPIs—it’s about energy, mindset, and the courage to think differently.

In this conversation, you’ll learn:
• How to shift from “what can we do?” to “what would we love?”
• Why energy and love are the real drivers of leadership.
• How vision connects purpose, potential, and results.
• The single most important move every new leader can make.
Mini Q&A
• Q: What’s the biggest mistake leaders make?
A: They focus on managing instead of inspiring.
• Q: What’s one mindset shift that changes everything?
A: Replace “how” thinking with “love” thinking.
• Q: What creates lasting leadership energy?
A: Seeing people for their potential—not their problems.

For More on John: www.bravethinkinginstitute.com
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The Next Interview is hosted by Doland White, executive coach, author of Lead With Confidence, and known as The Empowerment Guy. Each episode delivers practical insights, powerful stories, and bold conversations designed to help leaders empower their teams, accelerate growth, and lead with confidence.

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