Too many leaders avoid the real conversations. The ones that change behavior, build trust, and drive results. Why? Because most were never taught how.
In this week’s episode of The Next Interview, I sit down with Todd Holzman, executive coach to 30,000+ leaders and the mind behind the REAL Work Process—a framework that rewires the way high-performing teams talk, decide, and lead.
Todd doesn’t mince words. If your conversations aren't creating alignment, you’re not leading—you’re managing dysfunction.
🎯 What you’ll learn:
• The 4 stages every high-impact conversation must follow (and where most leaders break down)
• Why jumping to action kills strategy and how to realign your team with truth
• The invisible programming that makes smart people choose comfort over candor
🕒 Timestamps:
• 06:11 – Why most “difficult” conversations fail before they start
• 18:00 – The REAL framework that unlocks trust and autonomy
• 26:30 – How to measure your progress as a leader through conversation
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Meet Todd:
Website - https://holzman.com/
LinkdIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/todd-holzman/
eMail - [email protected]

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