Isabelle Dumont, CMO at CyberSecurity Canon and former SVP of Cowbell Cyber, joins Claire Hayek to explore how leaders can break free from micromanagement and build trust-fueled teams. The conversation traces Isabelle’s early experience with a controlling boss and the mindset shift that followed. Claire weaves in neuroscience around psychological safety, threat responses, and team dynamics, while Isabelle shares candid stories and her “Trust–Clarity–Let Go” approach. This episode is for any leader ready to evolve their presence under pressure.Topics Covered:Isabelle’s first leadership lesson: what not to replicateLetting go of control without losing accountabilityThe neuroscience of fear and the prefrontal cortexCreating clarity in chaotic environmentsThe cost of ambiguity and hidden expectationsHow feedback and self-regulation build trustThe importance of structure in empowering teamsTimestamps (HH:MM):00:00 – Cold open: the moment control kills culture01:45 – Claire’s intro and Isabelle’s background03:05 – Isabelle’s early leadership mistake05:30 – “Trust–Clarity–Let Go” explained09:20 – Claire on threat response and performance shutdown12:10 – Feedback culture and the trust-performance loop16:50 – Letting teams define their own measurement20:00 – Isabelle’s bold truths on leadership myths and micromanagement24:10 – Claire’s listener challenge and wrap-upConnect with Claire → All links and resources here | LinkedIn | IG: @claire.hayekHave a question? [email protected]
The NeuroLeadership Edge Podcast is produced by Claire Hayek. All opinions are those of the host and guests. For more leadership resources, visit www.mspteambuilding.com.

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