My friend Patrick has had a nonlinear career path. I wanted to have him on the how and hear a little bit more about the pivot he took in his career to get to where he is today. Today he's a copywriter and a writer. In this conversation, we get to dig into all the twists and turns that his career has taken him, as well as geek out a little bit on creative work. We talk about the discipline of getting in the chair and putting the time in to make creative work and how you have to be in the right place in order for the inspiration to strike, not the other way around. And so much more. It's just a really fun conversation. You're in for a treat here today. Show Notes: themeaningmovement.com/patrickmcnerthney

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