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Episode Synopsis
Pia and Tyler discuss "pleasure principle," the album closer that almost didn't make it into the book. Pia shares why she wanted to reclaim pleasure beyond just sexuality—desert road trips, artichokes, intimacy—while Tyler reveals this is the only track he's ever made that made him cry. A conversation about co-creating with friends, how six months changed them both, and savoring life—because even the pain is part of the pleasure.
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