Takeaways: We live in a society where debt, like that old pair of jeans, is just a part of everyday life. Mortgages, student loans, and credit cards have become the norm, not the exception. Debt isn't seen as failure anymore; instead, it's kind of our fuel for living the American dream. Are we really building lives or just financing them? That's a question worth pondering every day! Success seems to be measured in square footage these days, which is a little wild if you ask me. The richest among us might just be those who owe nothing at all, which is food for thought. Links referenced in this episode:jamesabrown.net

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