🚨 Emergency Podcast: Pam Epstein on Congress, Shutdown Politics, and What Comes Next

12/11/2025 1h 14min

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Shawn Collins of THC Group and Erik Gundersen of ERG Strategies sit down with Pamela Epstein, Chief Legal & Regulatory Officer at Terpene Belt, for an emergency conversation on Congress’s surprise move to restrict intoxicating hemp products nationwide.Tucked inside the federal government’s shutdown deal, the Senate added language that could redefine hemp and ban hemp-derived THC products across the country — a dramatic reversal from the 2018 Farm Bill that created the modern hemp market. It’s a political showdown now pitting Mitch McConnell against Rand Paul, with small businesses, farmers, and consumers caught in the crossfire.The discussion moves through shutdown politics, legislative maneuvering, and the uncertain future of hemp beverages, exploring how federal action might reshape the cannabis landscape heading into an election year. It’s a moment that asks what kind of hemp and cannabis market the U.S. wants to build — and who gets to decide.🎧 New episodes drop regularly. Follow @TheHybridPod on Instagram for updates.🔎 Topics: hemp regulation, intoxicating hemp ban, Farm Bill 2025, Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, Pamela Epstein, hemp beverages, cannabis policy, shutdown bill