In this episode, Marie Laing, Rebecca Beaulne-Stuebing, Sandi Wemigwase, and Sefanit Habtom sit with Kyle Mays to discuss his work as a Black-American Saginaw Anishinaabe scholar and hip-hop enthusiast. He discusses what draws him to the work he is currently doing, how hip-hop is used to dismantle Indigenous stereotypes, and what relationships he hopes to see between Indigenous and Black peoples. He also recommends many artists and writers for listeners to check out.   --- Kyle Mays' articles mentioned in the episode:  Can we Live – And Be Modern?: Decolonization, Indigenous Modernity, and Hip Hop (2015)  The Souls of White-Indians: A Letter to My White Indian Friend (2016)

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