Recorded in March 2025, in this conversation, my guest Sripriya, dives deep into the many dimensions of empathy, beyond the clichés of softness and sentimentality. Together, we explore how empathy is about making space not only for our own realities but also for those of others, without being consumed by negative emotions that can erode our own wellbeing. Sripriya invites us to explore empathy as discomfort that, if we stay with it long enough, can create a shift; as aroha and compassion that help us get organised in the world; and as an unapologetic stance that enables accountability alongside care. Please note: in some moments the audio quality could have been better, and we apologise for that. Remember, in a world where discord echoes loudly, let empathy be our pluriversal language!

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