In this episode, our host Phillip Heath AM welcomes NAIDOC Person of the Year nominee, Norman Laing along with his son Jimmy, Year 11 student, in a powerful reflection on culture, leadership, and legacy. Norman shares his journey from soldier to Dunghutti legal advisor, offering insights into the Voice to Parliament referendum, identity, and his hopes for future First Nations leaders. Jimmy speaks to his path toward cultural initiation and the responsibility young Indigenous people carry in preserving story and songlines for generations to come. In line with the 2025 NAIDOC theme—The Next Generation: Strength, Vision, and Legacy—this heartfelt conversation explores reconciliation, intergenerational knowledge, and the strength found in cultural pride. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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