What exactly is a “naturalist”? Spend a little time with Sandy Geffner, and you’ll find out. Steve and Bill rarely go more than an episode or two without mentioning him—a naturalist who profoundly shaped both their lives. This month, they head into the woods to talk with Sandy about how a baseball-loving kid from Long Island became someone who’s inspired countless people to deepen their connection with the natural world.This episode was recorded on July 21, 2025 at JP Nicely Memorial Park in West Falls, NY.Episode Notes and LinksEarth Spirit Educational Services Rogers Environmental CenterThe State University of NY at Buffalo’s Dept. of Environment and SustainabilitySandy’s UB Faculty PageSantee Sioux ReservationStony Kill Farm Environmental Education CenterTifft Nature PreserveCayuga Nature Center / TreetopsSponsors and Ways to Support UsThank you to Always Wandering Art (Website and Etsy Shop) for providing the artwork for many of our episodes.Support us on Patreon.Photo CreditSUNY at Buffalo

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