Podcast host, Jeanne Yoon, invites close friend and fellow fantasy fan, Hanna Lee, to discuss how escapism impacts society. This episode explores Daniel Baker’s article “Why We Need Dragons: The Progressive Potential of Fantasy” and its claim that individuals need fantasy. This idea is connected with The Vampire Diaries television series and the strong influence it has brought upon many viewers. In their discussion, they recall characters and events of core fantasy elements and examine what makes the relatively dated show still a prominent topic of discussion among young fans today.

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