In this conversation, Pastor Nat Crawford and Dr. Matthew Bates explore the themes of salvation, faith, and discipleship, emphasizing the importance of understanding faith as allegiance to Jesus rather than mere belief. They discuss the implications of this perspective for the church, baptism, and the practical outworking of faith in a post-Christian world. Dr. Bates argues for a holistic view of salvation that integrates discipleship and community, challenging listeners to reconsider their understanding of the gospel and their role within the church.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background01:39 The Need for a Correct Understanding of Faith and the Gospel06:25 The Practical Implications of Faith as Allegiance10:01 The Multifaceted Nature of Grace12:28 The Importance of Obedience in Faith21:38 Allegiance to Jesus and the Concept of Grace29:08 The Significance of Baptism in Expressing Allegiance34:26 The Church's Role in Nurturing AllegianceTakeawaysSalvation is not just about avoiding hell but involves allegiance to Jesus as King.Discipleship is integral to salvation, not separate from it.Baptism serves as a formal declaration of loyalty to Jesus.The church must foster a community that acknowledges Jesus' kingship.Faith should be understood as an embodied action, not just intellectual assent.The gospel encompasses a broader narrative than individual salvation; it includes the allegiance of nations.Understanding the Greek word 'pistis' as allegiance changes the interpretation of faith.The church's practices should reflect a commitment to Jesus' authority.Community plays a crucial role in nurturing allegiance to Jesus.The gospel is about God's grace and the call to live under His kingship. Support the showFollow us online Pastor Nat:FB - @natcrawfordspeakerX - @natmaanInstagram - @natmaanYouTube - https://youtube.com/@NatCrawford?si=_ObFu-smVYoZul2wWebsite - www.natcrawford.comChurch - www.livinglifereformed.orgPastor Dan:FB - https://www.facebook.com/dan.coke.9Church - https://sowerchurch.com/

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