In this episode of The Evolving Leader, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to Professor Vincent Deary. Vincent is a writer, researcher and a practitioner health psychologist. He's a professor of psychology at Northumbria University and a former clinical fatigue specialist at the Cresta fatigue clinic. He has also worked as a cognitive behavioural therapist with an interest in researching new interventions. In 2015, the first part of Vincent’s ‘How To Live’ trilogy ‘How We Break’ was published, followed in 2024 by ‘How We Break’, where the focus is on what happens when our minds and bodies are pushed beyond their limits.Referenced during this episode:How We Are: The Force of Habit and the Work of ChangeHow We Break: Navigating the Wear and Tear of LivingThe Cresta Fatigue ClinicOther reading from Jean Gomes and Scott Allender: Leading In A Non-Linear World (J Gomes, 2023)The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence (S Allender, 2023)Social:Instagram           @evolvingleaderLinkedIn             The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter               @Evolving_LeaderYouTube           @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team After more than 5 years of hosting The Evolving Leader, Jean Gomes and Scott Allender are launching their new show The Mindset Economy in January 2026. The new show will explore how to live better, work smarter and be connected in a more uncertain world where machines can think. Available wherever you get your podcasts.

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