In this episode we sit down with Matthew (aka the based rollup guy) co-founder and Chief Product Officer of Spire to unpack the philosophy and technical design behind based rollups and why they might be the most powerful unlock for composability since flashbotsFrom his roots running MEV bots in cloud terminals before he had a credit card to helping define the architecture of Spire’s rollup stack Matthew shares an insider’s perspective on sequencing consensus and the social layer of economic securityWe covered:What makes a rollup based and why sequencing reuse unlocks atomicity MEV coordination and cross-chain callsHow Spire's sidecar architecture and priming transactions enable fast predictive L3 execution across ecosystemsWhy economic security isn’t just about staked ETH — it’s about avoiding hard forks and understanding who actually holds powerDeep dive into superblocks DA strategies and the difference between predictive and introspective executionAsync programming trust assumptions and what it means to operate inside a shared consensus zoneWhether you’re scaling infra debating consensus models or just trying to understand the next evolution of L3s this one is packed with insightFollow Us:Host:Name: Alex WattTitle: Founder&CEOX handle: @ThogardPvPCompany Name: FastLane Labs (@0xFastLane)Guest:Name: Matthew Title: Co-founder, Chief of Product X handle: @mteamisloading Company Name: Spire (@spire_labs)

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