Elizabeth and Roger debate how the podcast will know the pandemic is over, Mad Men's connection to academia, learning from golf videos, knowing where your salary comes from, and how to manage your mentor relationship when transitioning to independence.   Show Notes Karl Broman's Blog Posts Mad Men clip Roger makes an animated GIF Roger on Twitter Elizabeth on Twitter Effort Report on Twitter Get Roger's and Elizabeth's book, The Art of Data Science Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts Subscribe to the podcast on Google Play Find past episodes Contact us at theeffortreport @ gmail.com Podcast art by Maggie Matsui

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