In this conversation, Trevor Greenberg and John Kerkhoff explore the nuances of leadership and project management, particularly from a military perspective. They discuss common misconceptions about military leadership, the importance of ethical practices, and the transition from project manager to leader. John shares insights on the significance of failure in leadership development, the balance between efficiency and skill, and the evolution of project management methodologies. The conversation is enriched with personal anecdotes and practical advice for aspiring leaders.



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https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-kerkhoff-pmp-cplc-8a844ba7/

www.cadenceforchange.com

https://frago22.com/



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The intro music for this podcast includes portions from “The Wandering," composed and performed by The Ravened. Find more of his work at https://www.youtube.com/@the-ravened. Used with permission by The Ravened.

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