We are back and joined by Matt Wagner!! We are talking about the origins of DEvil's Crucible. We talk variant covers, character design and even chat about how the Aerialist leads into Matt's newest, never-before-talked about all ages project. Another great talk with the architect of Grendel! For our YouTube Video Playlist CLICK HERE!!! Eli Schwab https://cosmiclionproductions.com @CosmicLion on Instagram @CosmicLionProductions Ben Granoff @BenGranoff on Instagram Watch Bens new YouTube show!! https://www.youtube.com/@BGranoff Much love to Matt Wagner who is on instagram @MattWagnerComics and Twitter @MattWagnerComics And check Brennan Wagners killer website out!!  https://brennanwagnerart.com/ Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/1jzmBWoPHse5b2oNVbMwOu?si=OFofifuxTyKjeITOmHWxQA

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