On this episode of The Data Minute, Peter sits down with Drew Glover, founder and managing partner at Fiat Ventures and Fiat Growth, for a wide-ranging conversation on what’s next in fintech and what founders actually want from their investors.They dive into how fintech is moving from DTC chaos into quietly powerful B2B infrastructure, why capital is no longer a moat, and how AI may turn traditionally “unsexy” industries into VC-ready moonshots. Drew shares how Fiat combines strategic capital and operational firepower, why most products change after seed funding, and what VCs should be underwriting instead.This one is founder-forward, fund-sharp, and full of insight into where fintech, and early-stage VC, is going next.Subscribe to Carta’s weekly Data Minute newsletter: https://carta.com/subscribe/data-newsletter-sign-up/Explore interactive startup and VC data, with Carta’s Data Desk: https://carta.com/data-desk/Chapters:01:35 – Why fintech’s rollercoaster is (maybe) headed back up03:20 – From growth at all costs to sustainable strategy04:45 – The emotional weight of money06:30 – Fintech is everywhere08:15 – The founder–capital–consumer triangle is shifting09:10 – How Fiat “underwrites” with data from 300+ growth clients10:50 – What Fiat looks for in a founder12:00 – Obsession > expertise13:40 – Drew’s fintech investing thesis in the AI era15:15 – Can AI unlock investability in “unsexy” sectors like HVAC and services?16:40 – Are we about to lose a whole tier of founders to lifestyle design?18:15 – Runway > headcount: why startup raises aren’t shrinking19:00 – Capital is not the moat20:14 – Strategic capital wins deals: how Fiat preempts rounds21:10 – What “capital plus” means in early-stage VC today22:42 – Where does all that early-stage funding actually go?23:45 – Why founders need to become founders-as-influencers26:20 – Thought leadership advice for the technical or hesitant founder27:10 – People buy from you, not the brand28:45 – AI-native companies = raise big, move first, win fast29:50 – User loyalty, moats, and the AI ecosystem play31:05 – Fintech exits today? Chime isn’t a blueprint—it’s a relic32:30 – New fintech liquidity paths: acquisitions and stablecoins34:12 – Infra is cool again: why debt markets are getting VC attention36:18 – Public vs. private comps: who really feels the correction37:45 – Do early-stage fintech founders understand capital markets?38:26 – Laddering out: going beyond beachhead personas39:23 – Why Drew hates TAM slides (but still expects them)40:35 – Vision over product: why thesis alignment matters more41:12 – Fiat Ventures and Fiat Growth: how the relationship works42:42 – How Fund I turned client signals into conviction44:15 – Focus is the moat, even when it’s tempting to chase hype45:17 – Advice to younger Drew: do we need more VCs?46:25 – Being a founder–GP is harder than it looks47:12 – Why LPs push focus48:10 – How Fiat thinks about fund size vs. fund stage49:15 – Why GPs shouldn’t optimize for management fees50:07 – Reserve strategy, conviction, and when to bet once50:52 – Final take: VC is the best seat in businessThis presentation contains general information only and eShares, Inc. dba Carta, Inc. (“Carta”) is not, by means of this publication, rendering accounting, business, financial, investment, legal, tax, or other professional advice or services, and is for informational purposes only.  This presentation is not a substitute for such professional advice or services nor should it be used as a basis for any decision or action that may affect your business or interests. © 2025 eShares, Inc., dba Carta, Inc.

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