Find out how to navigate the complexities of ministry while staying true to your calling with insights from Beth Caulfield, author of "People Throw Rocks at Things that Shine." In this episode, we unpack the inevitable messiness and unexpected hardships that come with following one's spiritual path. Beth provides wisdom on how to remain steadfast, emphasizing that God uses every experience, even the tough ones, to fulfill His greater plan. Drawing inspiration from the Apostle Paul, we discuss the importance of maintaining a close relationship with God and keeping our eyes on Jesus to stay resilient and fruitful in ministry.



Discover practical tools and heartfelt advice on balancing self-care with spiritual duties. Reflecting on moments of divine encouragement, we highlight the significance of finding personal spiritual disciplines, fostering supportive spiritual communities, and integrating self-care practices to avoid burnout. We also embrace the reality of our "crabby" moments, providing strategies to manage them effectively and sustain a healthy spiritual life. Tune in for an episode brimming with encouragement, practical tips, and spiritual nourishment aimed at helping you thrive in your ministry journey.



Transcript



Margie: 0:01



Hey there, Margie Bryce here bringing you the Crabby Pastor podcast, and I don't think you're going to be too surprised to know that it's too easy today to become the Crabby Pastor. Our time together will give you food for thought to help you be the ministry leader fully surrendered to God's purposes and living into whatever it takes to get you there and keep you there. So we're talking about sustainability in ministry. I read a book recently by Beth Caulfield and it's called People Throw Rocks at Things that Shine, which the title alone grabbed me. And as I was reading through the book, one thing in particular, the big picture thing that really touched me was what happens when our call gets a little messy. Happens when our call gets a little messy.



Margie: 1:08



I don't know if any of you have had the opportunity to have your call get messy. I know of a couple who had this gorgeous trajectory totally upward and I'm sure the angels are singing in the background of their call. That's not my experience. I don't think that's the experience of many, many pastors. So this podcast I am going to interview Beth Caulfield. This podcast is dedicated to all y'all out there that whose calls just have been a little messy. Things that you can lean into, lean on, do and all of that so that you don't become, you know, the crabby pastor. So, beth, you are going to kind of start us off. I think with some of your this is like a three-point sermon, almost, isn't it? But I'll let you talk some about our call and who we are as we follow Jesus.



Beth: 2:11



Well, thank you, Margie, and the first thing I want to say is I really appreciate you having me on and giving me the opportunity to talk about this very subject, because it's my hope that, as part of my ministry including with the book is to help people recognize that, yeah, it's just like everything that Jesus said it would be. It's not going to be easy, but if we keep our eyes on him and not on the waves and all that he has taught us in relationship with him, then we can get through it, and I love that you're doing this kind of podcast, because it is clearly about helping us who are in the thick of it Remember that Jesus is teaching us what to do. So you know. You referenced the title of my book, which just is exactly what you're talking about, with the fact that when we are out in ministry, we should not be surprised when the rocks come, and sometimes the rocks come from places that we expect, and sometimes it's usually the ones that hit the hardest are the ones we don't expect, and it all can be a faith building experience if we remember that we knew th

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