Systems naturally strive for equilibrium, but when that equilibrium is dysfunctional, it fiercely resists healthy change. We explore the foundational concepts of family systems theory and how they apply to church leadership.• Differentiation comes from biology – distinct cells that touch and connect while maintaining their unique identity• Common errors include never approaching the line (emotional cutoff), stepping over the line into others' space (control), or failing to push back when boundaries are crossed• A non-anxious presence means responding calmly despite feeling internal anxiety• Differentiation requires understanding your identity in Christ deeply enough to resist togetherness pressure• Leaders who differentiate create space for others to mature, though it often creates discomfort• The gospel enables us to "afford to differentiate" because our identity is secure in Christ• Differentiated leadership evokes different responses: attraction, repulsion, or sabotageBooks / Authors MentionedEdwin H. Friedman — A Failure of Nerve: Leadership in the Age of the Quick Fix Link (Amazon)Jack Shitama — Anxious Church, Anxious People: How to Lead Change in an Age of Anxiety Link (Amazon)Jack Shitama — If You Met My Family, You’d Understand: A Family Systems Primer Link (Amazon) Non-Anxious Leader site (audio, resources)Timothy Keller — The Freedom of Self-Forgetfulness Link (Amazon)Curt Thompson — The Soul of Shame(Amazon)Organizations / ResourcesVital Church Ministry — Organization specializing in interim pastoring and church diagnostics, founded by Dr. Dave Miles (previous CRP guest). LinkKey Biblical References / ThemesPaul to Timothy: “I know whom I have believed…” (2 Timothy 1:12)Moses interceding for Israel after the golden calf incident (Exodus 32).Pilate’s trial of Jesus: “I find no fault in him…” yet yielding to pressure (John 18–19).Identity and acceptance in Christ: “This is my Son…with whom I am well pleased.” (Matthew 3:17Support the showPlease connect with us at our Website, Facebook, LinkedIn, and YouTube. If you'd like to support the work of Flourish Coaching you can click here to make a donation.Connect with Jeremy to discuss podcasting.

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