In this episode, I’m joined by Joe Pane, an expert in emotional fitness and behavioural profiling. Joe’s journey from the corporate world to transformational coaching is deeply inspiring. He shares how his work helps people shift their relationship with uncertainty, turning what many fear into a powerful catalyst for growth. Joe explains his metaphor of the swimming pool, illustrating the spectrum of uncertainty from variety to full-blown crisis, and how emotional fitness equips us to swim through the deep end rather than drown.We also explore the difference between personality profiling and behavioural profiling, and how tools like eDISC provide deeper insights into how we are energetically wired. Joe has coached over 7,000 professionals and teaches how to use energy more wisely, manage tasks based on natural wiring, and avoid being drained by the wrong work.We reflect on the value of self-awareness, why avoiding problems never works, and how true growth really only begins when life squeezes us. Joe’s story and practical wisdom are a powerful reminder that our future success depends on how we engage with life’s uncertainties.Joe’s book Courage to Be You is available on Amazon, and you can find his free resources and emotional fitness programs at joepane.com.au.Visit Charles Kovess' websites: charleskovess.com kovess.com Reach out to Charles via email: [email protected] Discover more about Charles and this show: charleskovess.com/show-notes/ Visit and subscribe to the YouTube channel: youtube.com/@CharlesBKovess The Charles Kovess Show is now being syndicated in Cafe Locked Out on 'X' (formerly Twitter). Go here: x.com/cafelockedout Charles also supports the Forever Freedom Movement — visit foreverfreedommovement.com to learn how children trapped in trafficking can be aided. https://foreverfreedommovement.com/ Intro/Outro music credit: Music by bensound.comLicense code: SVLGLBBT9BLK1ZT4

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