Have you ever walked around a cathedral, slack-jawed and amazed, trying to take it all in but realizing you were only scratching the surface? Maybe that happened in Santiago de Compostela. The good news is that Anne Born can tell you what you're missing. Her book, If You Stand Here: A Pilgrim's Tour of the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela, is packed full of stories that reveal the secrets of the cathedral that are hiding in plain sight, and she shares some of those stories in this episode. Along with that, Dave reads the introduction of his new book, Pilgrimage: A Medieval Cure for Modern Ills, to illustrate that professional audiobook narrators are worth their weight in gold.

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