Listen to two environment artists sit down and discuss topics about environment art, the games industry in general and more...  
More resources for environment Artists can be found:
https://www.beyondextent.com/  
Get access to our community, learn from great resources and more... :
https://www.patreon.com/BeyondExtent  
Timestamps:
- 00:00 - Introduction
- 01:39 - #gamedevpaidme and our perception of wages in the industry as students
- 09:06 - How passion and wage can often get entangled
- 11:06 - How some studios use your passion to their advantage
- 20:35 - The industry is getting more competitive, which means more people driving down wages
- 21:34 - Look at the money spend and other factors
- 29:00 - QA being underpaid and under appreciated
- 31:08 - Job security in the games industry
- 33:05 - Our experiences with negotiating a higher wage
- 42:15 - Patreon Question: What would you have been doing if it were not environment/3D art?
- 55:41 - Outro and Patreon overview  
Our work:
Timothy Dries:
https://timothydries.com/ 
Johann William Loffler:
https://www.artstation.com/willispoon  
Additional Shownotes:
Cost of living index
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings.jsp  
Glassdoor, finding and comparing salaries, good source for expectations
https://www.glassdoor.com/index.htm  
UK Gamedev Salaries
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uZF-gfBDHNJE8ebDQUFy49pwrAnCMx8uf6VzNITaOKI/edit#gid=846726335  
Swedish Game Dev Salaries
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FdkBt5bdo1zgyCI4RdBf35Swvh6oUcGWXMg4NO3GhTU/edit#gid=285082772  
Spanish Game Dev Salaries
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1afS0tGVA72vTlK2jw1QHezIVmPzBUVBi87yKQ1PcdC8/edit#gid=845521650

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