In this episode of the 'to the heart' podcast, Helen Thorne-Allenson, Steve Midgley, and Andrew Collins explore the importance of heart-centered conversations within the church. They discuss the nature of the heart in biblical counselling, the appropriateness of depth in conversations, and how to respond to individuals sharing their struggles. The conversation emphasises the need for understanding, humility, and the role of Scripture in facilitating change. Practical applications are provided, particularly in addressing issues like envy, and the team discuss encouraging a culture of openness and honesty in church communities.Takeaways:The heart is central to our relationship with God.Churches should foster environments for heart-centered conversations.Navigating social norms is crucial in deep conversations.Acknowledging someone's struggle takes courage and humility.Understanding is a collaborative process, not a one-sided analysis.The Holy Spirit plays a vital role in revealing truths.Change is a complex process involving both understanding and action.Scripture should be woven into conversations naturally.Building a culture of openness can transform church dynamics.Everyone can grow in their ability to engage deeply with others.Real ChangeThe Real Change course is discussed towards the end of the episode.Chapters:00:00 -Introduction to Heart-Centered Conversations00:56 -Understanding the Heart in Biblical Counseling02:57 -Navigating Depth in Church Conversations06:59 -Responding to Heartfelt Struggles11:33 -Exploring Deeper Issues of the Heart14:17 -The Role of Understanding in Heart Conversations17:15 -The Process of Change and Scripture's Role22:31 -Practical Applications: Envy and Heart Issues32:59 -Building a Culture of Openness in the ChurchHosted by Helen Thorne-Allenson and produced by Andrew McKenna.Find all episodes on your favourite podcast provider or at bcuk.org/podcastFor regular news from BCUK join our mailing lists at bcuk.org/joinTo support the work of BCUK visit bcuk.org/get-church-talking

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