In this episode of The Abhisek Cast, I’m joined by HD Moore, creator of Metasploit and founder of runZero, for a deep and honest conversation about cybersecurity’s past, present, and future.We explore how security evolved from an underground, legally risky activity into a massive commercial industry—and what was lost along the way. HD shares the real design philosophy behind Metasploit, why it intentionally bypassed security products, and how open source shaped an entire generation of pentesters.The discussion also breaks down why asset inventory and discovery remain foundational yet unsolved problems, how runZero approaches attack surface mapping, and why many security tools only see half the environment they’re supposed to protect.We also talk about bug bounties, internal security testing, AI hype, and why relying on LLMs without understanding programming fundamentals is dangerous.A thoughtful episode for anyone building tools, breaking systems, or trying to understand what real security work looks like beyond buzzwords.Key Topics Covered:Early hacker culture vs modern cybersecurityWhy Metasploit was controversial—and why it workedOpen source vs commercial security modelsAsset discovery and attack surface managementBug bounties vs traditional penetration testingAI in security: overhyped or inevitable?Advice for people entering cybersecurity todayTimestamps:00:00 - Introduction00:40 - Early life & first exposure to computers02:00 - Burnout, scale, and community in cybersecurity03:40 - How security changed from the 90s to today06:10 - Why Metasploit was designed to break defenses10:40 - Open source vs commercializing security tools13:45 - runZero and the asset discovery problem19:45 - Underground stories from Metasploit days22:10 - Bug bounties: value, limits, and trade-offs27:25 - Internal security testing & risk28:20 - AI, GPUs, and why HD is cautious30:40 - Advice for newcomers to cybersecurityThanks for watching!

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