Guest: Kurt Francom • Founder and Executive Director of Leading Saints • Host of the Leading Saints Podcast – available anywhere you get your podcasts • Author of Is God Disappointed in Me? Removing Shame from a Gospel of Grace – Get it here on Amazon (available in paperback and audio)Follow Kurt on Instagram:@leadingsaintsEpisode Highlights: • Kurt’s perspective on grace and why God isn’t disappointed in us • The difference between correction and disappointment • The role of grace and commandments in our relationship with God • How visiting other faiths has enriched his spiritual understanding🎉 Upcoming Event! 🎉Join us for our Divine Feminine and Women’s Empowerment Event on National Women’s Day, March 8th, from 5 PM to 8 PM at The Compass Gallery in Provo, Utah.✨ This event is for both men and women who want to explore the power of the divine feminine through art, conversation, and meaningful connections.🎟️ Get your tickets now at: tinyurl.com/empower2025Thanks for listening to That’s Church! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast. Follow us on Instagram @thatschurchpodcast for more updates and behind-the-scenes content!

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