In this craft-rich conversation, writer and lyricist Douglas McKelvey shares the winding path that led to Every Moment Holy, why Volume Two (grief, death, and hope) was formed in community, and how he thinks about vocation through a Kingdom economy—serving real people first. He previews his next book: a young-adult-focused collection (late HS through mid-20s) with longtime illustrator Ned Bustard. We also talk about the Art House in the ‘90s, Rabbit Room, and what it means to “mourn with those who mourn” while keeping hold of joy. Plus a fun closer: Doug invents a Chesterton-inspired coffee drink (“The Father Brown”).You’ll hear about:The loaves-and-fishes posture in what you bringHow community shapes our livesWhy joy and sorrow don’t cancel each other outA forthcoming EMH book crafted for young adults entering adulthoodServing your community vs. chasing what sellsMentioned in this episode:Every Moment Holy, Vols. 1–3 — Rabbit Room PressNew EMH for young adults (forthcoming; with artist Ned Bustard)The Art House (Charlie Peacock & Andi Ashworth)Book: Adorning the Dark — Andrew PetersonBook: Why Everything That Doesn’t Matter Matters So Much — Charlie Peacock & Andi AshworthAuthors mentioned: G.K. Chesterton, C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, Susanna Clarke (Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell)Book: Lament for a Son — Nicholas WolterstorffHelp The Persecuted (Doug’s shout-out)Catch more of the story @thanks.for.doing.that.podcast!

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