Is AI really the new UI, or is that just another tech buzzphrase? Or ... is AI actually EVERY user interface now?In this episode of TechFirst, host John Koetsier sits down with Mark Vange, CEO & founder of Automate.ly and former CTO at Electronic Arts, to unpack what happens when interfaces stop being fixed and start being generated on the fly.They explore:• Why generative AI makes it cheaper to create custom interfaces per user• How conversational, auditory, and adaptive experiences redefine “UI”• When consistency still matters (cars, safety systems, frontline work)• Why AI doesn’t replace workers — but radically reshapes workflows• Whether browsers should become AI-native or stay neutral canvases• The unresolved risks around AI agents, payments, and controlFrom hospitals using AI to speak Haitian Creole, to compliance forms that drop from hours to minutes, this conversation shows how every experience can become intelligent, contextual, and helpful.👉 If you care about product design, AI, UX, or the future of software, this episode is for you.Subscribe for more conversations like this:https://techfirst.substack.com⸻👤 GuestMark VangeCEO & Founder, Automate.lyFormer CTO, Electronic ArtsInvestor, serial entrepreneur, and builder focused on intent-driven, AI-native software⸻⏱️ Chapter Markers 00:00 – Is AI the New UI?Why generative interfaces are reigniting the UI conversation02:10 – The Hidden Cost of Traditional InterfacesWhy one-size-fits-all software limits users04:20 – When UIs Are Generated on DemandAdaptive experiences vs fixed screens and buttons06:15 – Conversational & Multimodal InterfacesWhy voice, audio, and language are all “UI”08:30 – When Consistency Still MattersSafety, muscle memory, and shared interface conventions10:45 – How Generative UIs Change WorkAI as a collaborator, not a replacement13:05 – Making Every Page an ApplicationWhy “dumb forms” and static sites are disappearing15:10 – The Browser as the Ultimate InterfaceNeutral canvases vs AI-controlled environments17:10 – AI Agents, Payments, and ControlWhy money is the hardest unsolved AI problem19:25 – The Future of Multimodal UIWhy UI goes far beyond pixels and screensIs AI really the new UI — or is that just another tech buzzphrase?

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