In this episode, we talk to Dr. Giesela Grumbach, a social worker and educator. Dr. Grumbach discusses the evolving role of school social workers, emphasizing their importance in providing counseling, home visits, and advocacy. She highlights the significance of social-emotional learning (SEL) standards and the multi-tiered system of support, which includes tier one (prevention), tier two (small group interventions), and tier three (intensive support). Dr. Grumbach stresses the need for teachers to be attuned to students' emotional states and to listen with a "third ear" to understand nuanced meanings. She also addresses disparities in education and the importance of closing the loop with students, especially during remote learning.

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