To finish off Talking with Tech Leaders for 2020, we have a special Christmas treat for episode 4. Michael Phair has handed over the interviewer's mic (MS Teams account) to Be-IT Managing Director, Nikola Kelly.She's joined by Ben Stewart, Senior Engineering Manager at Skyscanner – someone tailor-made for this podcast. He's not just full of technical knowhow, but also has some real insight and fascinating observations to make about managing people, particularly in a year like we've just endured. Together, they talk about managing work as a parent, grappling with the huge social issues that 2020 has brought (not just covid!) and – most importantly – how the hell you plan a remote Christmas party for your team. You can about Ben at his blog (take a few minutes – it's great): benjibanjo.com and, as ever, if you want to know more about what Be-IT do, you can find out more at be-IT.co.uk

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