NHS England has estimated that practices spend around 10-20% of their time on 'lower-value administrative work and work generated by issues at the primary-secondary care interface', so what can we do to address this?This week Emma speaks to GP Dr Jonathan Griffiths the associate medical director for Primary Care at NHS Cheshire and Merseyside ICB about work he’s been doing in his area to solve some of these challenges.In this conversation Jonathan explains some of the main problems that happen at the interface between primary and secondary care, how they are aiming to address these in Cheshire and Merseyside and the key things he’s learned through doing this work.He also talks about why it is so important for the NHS to look at this as a system-wide issue and what the government and NHS England need to do centrally to help support local efforts to address these problems – as well as how this work applies to the interface with other sectors such as community services and mental health.This episode was presented by GPonline editor Emma Bower. It was produced by Czarina Deen.Useful links●     NHS Cheshire and Merseyside Consensus on the Primary and Secondary Care Interface●     RCGP Primary-Secondary Care Interface Guidance - which is based on work in Cheshire and Merseyside●     Academy of Medical Royal Colleges publication - General practice and secondary care: Working better together - provides multiple examples of work that is aiming to improve working between primary and secondary care

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