John has a late night thanks to T-swift and some T-storms, and reveals how long he needs to know someone before going in for a hug. Meanwhile, Jonnie explains why there’s a phone booth on top of the courthouse in Lincoln, Illinois and spends a LOT of money on his dog’s knees.  Plus, a conversation about cynicism and hopefulness, and why it’s always more courageous to believe the best about people.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Party Size Bags of Potato Chips: “Look, we know there’s no party. Just eat the chips, weirdo.” Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

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